Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
afgeronde middelbare administratieve opleiding
English translation:
a completed secondary vocational administrative education
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Toiny Van der Putte-Rademakers
Nov 11, 2012 20:48
11 yrs ago
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Dutch term
Toiny Van der Putte-Rademakers
20 years in medical and nutrition
Native in: Dutch (Variant: Netherlands)
Works in: English to Dutch, Dutch to English
afgeronde middelbare administratieve opleiding
Dutch to English
Social Sciences
General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
selectiecriteria
Een bedrijf geeft goedkope belastingadviezen aan mensen met lage inkomens, bijvoorbeeld mensen die in schuldhulpverlening zitten, uitkeringsgerechtigden, etc., via gemeenten. Bij de selectiecriteria staat o.a.:
tenminste afgeronde middelbare administratieve opleiding, bij voorkeur afgeronde hogere administratieve opleiding.
De Nuffic-site biedt geen uitkomst.
tenminste afgeronde middelbare administratieve opleiding, bij voorkeur afgeronde hogere administratieve opleiding.
De Nuffic-site biedt geen uitkomst.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +2 | a completed secondary vocational administrative education |
Terry Costin
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| 3 +4 | completed administrative training at an intermediate level |
Marijke Singer
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Change log
Nov 12, 2012 01:03: writeaway changed "Field" from "Other" to "Social Sciences" , "Field (specific)" from "Business/Commerce (general)" to "General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters"
Proposed translations
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Terry Costin
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Cambridge Business English Higher
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a completed secondary vocational administrative education
A company provides inexpensive tax advice to people on low incomes, for example, people in debt, claming benefits, etc., through municipalities. The selection criteria includes: at
least a completed secondary vocational administrative education but preferably higher vocational administrative education.
Dutch Secondary Education (voortgezet onderwijs)
From the age of 12 years. There are four main diplomas:
VMBO (a further four years of school).
Prep school for vocational secondary education.
A VMBO-T diploma can lead onto secondary vocational education (MBO <<< middelbaar).
HAVO (five years). Senior general secondary education.
Provides entrance to hogescholen or ‘vocational universities’ (HBO Hoger beroepsonderwijs).
VWO (six years). Preparation for academic studies at a research university (WO -- Wetenschappelijk Onderwijs).
VWO schools are called Athenaeum, Gymnasium and/ or Lyceum. In the past, the various forms of secondary education were provided in different schools but now there are broader combined schools allowing movement between diploma programmes.
MBO (<<<< middelbaar). Secondary Vocational Education.
If a student has successfully completed the Dutch VMBO-t or the international middle school programmes, the IGCSE or IB-MYP, but is not admitted to the IB-Diploma Programme, the MBO (three to four years) might be a good option. In the Netherlands students can follow several MBO-programmes taught in the English language as well.
Beroepsonderwijs
beroepsonderwijs vocational education , vocational training
HOGER beroepsonderwijs (hbo)
higher professional education
individueel voorbereidend beroepsonderwijs (ivbo) individualized pre-vocational education
LAGER
lager beroepsonderwijs (lbo)
junior secondary vocational education
least a completed secondary vocational administrative education but preferably higher vocational administrative education.
Dutch Secondary Education (voortgezet onderwijs)
From the age of 12 years. There are four main diplomas:
VMBO (a further four years of school).
Prep school for vocational secondary education.
A VMBO-T diploma can lead onto secondary vocational education (MBO <<< middelbaar).
HAVO (five years). Senior general secondary education.
Provides entrance to hogescholen or ‘vocational universities’ (HBO Hoger beroepsonderwijs).
VWO (six years). Preparation for academic studies at a research university (WO -- Wetenschappelijk Onderwijs).
VWO schools are called Athenaeum, Gymnasium and/ or Lyceum. In the past, the various forms of secondary education were provided in different schools but now there are broader combined schools allowing movement between diploma programmes.
MBO (<<<< middelbaar). Secondary Vocational Education.
If a student has successfully completed the Dutch VMBO-t or the international middle school programmes, the IGCSE or IB-MYP, but is not admitted to the IB-Diploma Programme, the MBO (three to four years) might be a good option. In the Netherlands students can follow several MBO-programmes taught in the English language as well.
Beroepsonderwijs
beroepsonderwijs vocational education , vocational training
HOGER beroepsonderwijs (hbo)
higher professional education
individueel voorbereidend beroepsonderwijs (ivbo) individualized pre-vocational education
LAGER
lager beroepsonderwijs (lbo)
junior secondary vocational education
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Jack den Haan
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Ah, cheers, glad someone realises this point too, I discussed it on other things with Aart van Den End, in fact on using the UK word council when it concerns the gemeente here, where it's just a different system, and when it's about here, that's relevant
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you very much for the explanation. "
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Marijke Singer
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Technical translator with Math degree
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Works in: Dutch to English, Spanish to English, English to Spanish, and 3 more.
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completed administrative training at an intermediate level
I would split it into:
basic, intermediate and advanced level
basic, intermediate and advanced level
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Michael Beijer
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Discussion
as that's what it is about,
a very specific system
and you cannot just make stuff up that has no relevance to the actual institutions,
or rather you may but I do not.
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/dutch_to_english/education_pedagog...
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/dutch_to_english/education_pedagog...
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/dutch_to_english/certificates_dipl...
The terms you are referring to apply systems outside the Netherlands and are not relevant to the types of education available in the Netherlands and relevant here, where it concerns Dutch bodies not American or ones in the UK.
You could argue that vocational has to be in there somewhere, though.
Though I like the sound of the 1 answer supplied, I can't help thinking it is irrelevant to what the subject matter is about. It is not about any institution or system in the UK or America, it is a translation from Dutch, involving institutions and the way they are set up in the Netherlands, not a translation of something written in Dutch about systems in America &/or the UK and then translated into English, so translating to things that are relevant and known in the UK, is not accurate to what it means, as the systems being translated do not even exist in that exact same way in an English speaking country.
The word training may be in some instances okay, for opleiding, but the education meant here, from and in the Netherlands is specific and it means you end up with a recognised certificate or as best known in the Netherlands a diploma, so MBO or MEAO/HBO/Uni. If you speak of training, then it could imply/mean some course available anywhere and perhaps not even properly recognised or accredited by the accrediting bodies.
I would say that what is meant here, specifically and relevant to the Dutch system, is secondary vocational education, not a 3-month training.