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Glossary entry

Nederlands term or phrase:

schoolloopbaan

Engels translation:

educational career

Added to glossary by Anne Lee
Dec 10, 2009 11:06
14 yrs ago
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Nederlands term

schoolloopbaan

Nederlands naar Engels Sociale wetenschappen Onderwijs / pedagogie
Het verloop van het schooltraject afgelegd door leerlingen, in het kader van een vergelijking van schoolloopbanen van kinderen van verschillende sociale klassen.
Het HPP Lohman Sociaal Woordenboek Engels geeft 'educational career', maar dit zou misbegrepen worden als een carriere (leraar of pedagoog) in het onderwijs, dus ik wijs die versie van de hand. Elk gebruik van 'career' in deze context lijkt me trouwens verdacht.
Proposed translations (Engels)
5 +3 Educational career
4 Education tract
References
educational career
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Discussion

Dutch-English Dec 14, 2009:
Another suggestion: education years
Grayson Morr (X) Dec 11, 2009:
Well said Textpertise has explained the use of "career" very well, and I second her description--at least for US usage (I can't speak to UK / AUS / CA usage).
Textpertise Dec 10, 2009:
Wrong concept of career in mind What is bothering you, I think, is that you are associating the word "career" with "work" whereas the word is really more to do with a progression. One could have a military career, or even a career in crime and it means what you do first and what you do second and how you progress. This is what is also meant by the Dutch loopbaan. Here we mean the series of steps involved in a child's education. "Schooling" encompasses the totality of the school experience - including the teaching, pedagogic techniques, etc. etc. which are not what is meant by loopbaan.
elsjeb Dec 10, 2009:
How about the more generic "schooling"? I agree that the term "career" is not the best choice for school children before they have ever started to work.
Textpertise Dec 10, 2009:
Google is not the be-all and end-all In the course of my work as partner of a Secretarial and Word Processing Bureau since 1979, I have typed innumerable reports for an educational psychologist whose job was to explore and highlight factors which were interfering with a child's educational career in all sorts of ways. Please believe me when I say this term is OK. I don't have time now to Google it.
Anne Lee (asker) Dec 10, 2009:
More than a couple of examples? Schoolloopbaan has 68,500 hits on Google. Educational career seems to get a lot of hits, but already on page 1, the words are used in translations, not in the right order or used in a different context.
Textpertise Dec 10, 2009:
Educational career IS used in that sense The term is used in English in the way that you need it to be used.
Anne Lee (asker) Dec 10, 2009:
spanning the entire 'schoolloopbaan' This includes the entire 'loopbaan' from start to finish, examining the factors that may hold some children back. Educational career is NOT commonly used in that sense in English.
Textpertise Dec 10, 2009:
Does your document limit itself to lower school? As I understand it from what you have said, this is a prospective study of children from different class backgrounds. Is the study limited to how they have done or succeeded or not succeeded in primary school? Or is it following them through beyond that point. If it is only focussed on primary school, then there is something to be said for using the more limited term of "School career". As for "school trajectory", this term is used so rarely, that you would probably have to define it first, before it had any meaning to the reader. It sometimes means not so much performance as choices - thus the humanities as against the sciences would be different trajectories. Vocational as against academic studies, etc. Career encompasses both.
Wim Van Verre Dec 10, 2009:
Agree with Textpertise I agree with Textpertise that there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the word career in this context - in fact, I've often seen it used like this.

"School career" might be an alternative, or the far less common "school trajectory".
Textpertise Dec 10, 2009:
Educational career is actually correct The other would be teaching career.
The heading Educational Career appears in the typical curriculum vitae under which you list your education and qualifications. It means the course of your education, from grade school through secondary school to higher education or vocational training if applicable. You should not reject the use of this term.

Proposed translations

+3
14 min
Selected

Educational career

See discussion entry
Note from asker:
On balance, this will do even for the UK, but Kitty Brussard provided the references that convinced me.
Peer comment(s):
neutral writeaway : Het verloop van het schooltraject afgelegd door leerlingen/does full confidence level apply for that suggestion too?/I agree with children's school career (I also do a lot of ed docs). if one wants to play the google game, it gets 40k hits
5 min
Asker says it spans the whole schoolloopbaan from start to finish. I would feel safer with Educational career in those circumstances.
agree Grayson Morr (X) : This is definitely the correct term. For Google confirmation, try "children's educational career" (13K hits) and "student's educational career" (92K hits). This is the term you want, at least in the US.
3 uren
Thank you so much!
agree Verginia Ophof : or career education ?
3 uren
Career education/career guidance is specifically about helping children make career choices. Not the same thing at all as educational career, I am afraid.
agree Kitty Brussaard
4 dagen
Thanks, Kitty
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you, also to Kitty & others for providing references."
3 uren

Education tract

This is what I used when I was teaching at the University of South Florida in Tampa. Perhaps this helps, although it might be too US English.

I agree with you, to me 'career' more reflects the faculty than the students themselves.

Good luck from a very gloomy, rainy Suriname.
Lucinda
Peer comment(s):
neutral Grayson Morr (X) : I would feel more comfortable with "educational trajectory"; "education tract" doesn't sound right to me, more like a treatise on education.
37 min
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Reference comments

4 dagen
Reference:

educational career

Improving educational outcomes will include attention to all stages of a child’s educational career, from early years through to support for further and higher education.
http://www.c4eo.org.uk/themes/.../educationaloutcomes/

The research highlights the fact that pupils who do not get the chance to go to grammar school lose out in terms of their educational career and in the workplace.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/.../schools.northernireland

The English school system is failing pupils by forcing them to narrow the number of subjects they study too early in their educational career, a new report has claimed.
http://www.atl.org.uk/.../{C88E8A75-5989-458D-A589-E810326E4...
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