Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
cette culture de la parole biaisée et autre
English translation:
to twist words or whatever
- The asker opted for community grading. The question was closed on 2015-05-05 17:54:08 based on peer agreement (or, if there were too few peer comments, asker preference.)
French term
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Native in: French
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cette culture de la parole biaisée et autre
Témoignage d'un mineur dans un documentaire.
Comment traduire "cette culture de la parole biaisée" ?
Merci beaucoup!
| 4 +8 | to twist words or whatever |
Parisetcetera
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| 4 | this culture of distorting or ignoring the subject |
Daryo
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| 3 -1 | this culture of distorted words/biased speech, and something else |
Barbara Cochran, MFA
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May 2, 2015 11:46: Sarah Blard changed "Field (specific)" from "General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters" to "Cinema, Film, TV, Drama"
May 2, 2015 12:37: Tony M changed "Field (specific)" from "Cinema, Film, TV, Drama" to "General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters" , "Field (write-in)" from "(none)" to "A comment made in a documentary film"
Non-PRO (1): Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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Proposed translations
to twist words or whatever
Suggestion for that sentence :
So lying was not part of our culture, we were not taught how to lie, to twist words or whatever.
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Note added at 1 hr (2015-05-02 12:51:43 GMT)
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On second thought :
instead of "we were not taught how to lie",
I would go for :
"we never learned how to lie" ...
| Merci beaucoup! je vais partir sur cette proposition, ça reflète bien le discours du mineur. |
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writeaway
: minor not miner.
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To writeaway, in reply to your comment (very surprising for a pro on prozcom), please note :
A person who works in a mine is a miner (-ER), a person who is under age is a minor (-OR).
Here it's a guy working in a mine : a miner, - ER !
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Philippa Smith
: I like the second version of your full sentence, it sounds like someone (a minER) talking, as it should
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philgoddard
: This is good.
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Tony M
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EirTranslations
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Jennifer White
: agree, and welcome to proz.
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Thank you, Jennifer ! Minor/miner incidents apart, very happy to join the gang.
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Daryo
: 'autre' is not a standalone term => 'or whatever' in not correct and anyway doesn't make any sense in this sentence
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Verginia Ophof
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Florentina Constantin
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: The use of "bias" is possible too. "Whatever" is good for "et autre", which is indeed very commonly used as a stand-alone term.
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Yvonne Gallagher
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United States
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Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 3 more.
this culture of distorted words/biased speech, and something else
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Tony M
: Quite apart from the translation of the question term, I don't believe this is the correct meaning for 'et autre' either. Note it is 'autre' in the sg. I believe this construction means 'autre' goes with 'biaisée'
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So what is it, IYO, Tony?
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Daryo
: yes for 'distorted words/biased speech' BUT 'autre' is not a standalone term => 'and something else' in not correct and anyway doesn't make any sense in this sentence
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this culture of distorting or ignoring the subject
= abbreviated form for
cette culture de la parole biaisée et de la parole autre
parole biaisée: twisting the meaning by seeing or saying only the convenient part of the truth
la parole autre: simply ignoring the facts and talking of something totally else
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