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Poll: While working alone, do you sometimes end up talking out loud to yourself?
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bookwormkt
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It keeps me on track! Feb 20, 2010

Plus I need the sound of words and phrases need to be spoken out loud to confirm if it has the right 'ring'.

Of course, I LOOK carefully, so make sure there are no glaringly visible errors!!

I have often wondered if linguists are primarily aural learners. We must be, up to a point, as we spend a long time listening to our languages and checking our pronunciation.

I think I am an aural learner - if I talk myself through something, I am more likely to rememb
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Plus I need the sound of words and phrases need to be spoken out loud to confirm if it has the right 'ring'.

Of course, I LOOK carefully, so make sure there are no glaringly visible errors!!

I have often wondered if linguists are primarily aural learners. We must be, up to a point, as we spend a long time listening to our languages and checking our pronunciation.

I think I am an aural learner - if I talk myself through something, I am more likely to remember all the steps.

Of course, I could have cheated and said I talk to my dogs. I think they like hearing me talk in any language
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Francisco Rocha
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Yes Feb 20, 2010

Specially with my alter ego to ask for a second opinion.

 
Edward Potter
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I brought this up a couple of years ago Feb 20, 2010

http://www.proz.com/forum/translation_theory_and_practice/80881-talking_while_you_translate.html

 
Jack Doughty
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The only way Feb 20, 2010

Sometimes talking to yourself is the only way to have an intelligent conversation.

 
Konstantin Kisin
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nothing to worry about Feb 20, 2010

Actually we all talk to ourselves without speaking the words out loud most of them time. This is called internal dialogue, self talk and a host of other things. If you pay attention to your internal thoughts as you are translating, you will notice certain things happening - try it!

Talking through your translation makes a lot of sense because most people reading your translation are actually talking it through themselves just to understand it!...
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Actually we all talk to ourselves without speaking the words out loud most of them time. This is called internal dialogue, self talk and a host of other things. If you pay attention to your internal thoughts as you are translating, you will notice certain things happening - try it!

Talking through your translation makes a lot of sense because most people reading your translation are actually talking it through themselves just to understand it! Therefore, how your translation "sounds" is just as important as how it reads. The fact that most people tend to talk through a text they are reading is what limits most people's reading speed, which is why most speed reading techniques are based on teaching you to process the text visually (much faster).

Another interesting thing is that when we talk to ourselves inside our minds, we often actually subvocalise with our tongues, imitating the movements of the tongue that would need to be made to speak the words we are saying inside our heads.

Therefore, if you find yourself talking to yourself internally at times when it's not appropriate (i.e. when you're trying to listen to someone else), try putting the tip of your tongue to the roof of your mouth and keeping it there, or alternatively you can gently bite down on the tip of your tongue to stop it moving. What you'll probably find is that the internal dialogue stops! If you try this while translating however, you may find it more difficult to work!
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David Wright
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Austria
Local time: 22:51
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Of Course I do Feb 20, 2010

I use a dictation program. (OK, I talk to the computer as well -- never seems to lead to any result!)

 
Trinh Do
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Australia
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I was smiling from cheek to cheek like a Cheshire cat Feb 20, 2010

Most of the time, I am concentrating so hard that everything is blocked out. On one occasion, when translating this medical PDF file, maybe it was the difficulty in formatting the text, but I subconsciously smiled to myself for 15-20 minutes. I wonder whether this is concentration or I'm happy that I'm getting somewhere and about to finish the translation. But my sister noticed it and wondered why I was smiling when working. I guess that's a freelance translator's life.

Does anyone
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Most of the time, I am concentrating so hard that everything is blocked out. On one occasion, when translating this medical PDF file, maybe it was the difficulty in formatting the text, but I subconsciously smiled to myself for 15-20 minutes. I wonder whether this is concentration or I'm happy that I'm getting somewhere and about to finish the translation. But my sister noticed it and wondered why I was smiling when working. I guess that's a freelance translator's life.

Does anyone of you smile when translating?
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Montse Ballesteros
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Spain
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I like your tip Feb 20, 2010

Konstantin Kisin wrote:

Therefore, if you find yourself talking to yourself internally at times when it's not appropriate (i.e. when you're trying to listen to someone else), try putting the tip of your tongue to the roof of your mouth and keeping it there, or alternatively you can gently bite down on the tip of your tongue to stop it moving. What you'll probably find is that the internal dialogue stops! If you try this while translating however, you may find it more difficult to work!


I'll try this!


 
Oleksandr Kupriyanchuk
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Sometimes this is the only intelligent conversation Feb 20, 2010

Jack Doughty wrote:

...talking to yourself is the only way to have an intelligent conversation.


I rarely work alone, but when I do, sometimes I talk to my lovely white blue-eyed rabbit -- my first pet that is completely silent.

And when I talk to her, I enjoy this intelligent conversation very much.



[Edited at 2010-02-20 15:12 GMT]


 
Suzan Hamer
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Netherlands
Local time: 22:51
English
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Hear, hear! Feb 20, 2010

Jack Doughty wrote:

Sometimes talking to yourself is the only way to have an intelligent conversation.


 
Andres & Leticia Enjuto
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silly Feb 20, 2010

Trinh Do wrote:

Does anyone of you smile when translating?



I think I only smile to myself when I find out some silly mistake I've made.

As per talking out loud, yes, I do it quite often, specially to re-focus on some slippery sentence or when proofreading.

Andrés

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Umang Dholabhai
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India
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English to Gujarati
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So many times Feb 20, 2010

Trinh Do wrote:

Most of the time, I am concentrating so hard that everything is blocked out. On one occasion, when translating this medical PDF file, maybe it was the difficulty in formatting the text, but I subconsciously smiled to myself for 15-20 minutes. I wonder whether this is concentration or I'm happy that I'm getting somewhere and about to finish the translation. But my sister noticed it and wondered why I was smiling when working. I guess that's a freelance translator's life.

Does anyone of you smile when translating?


..that's a freelance translator's life.

[Edited at 2010-02-20 17:57 GMT]


 
Oleksandr Kupriyanchuk
Oleksandr Kupriyanchuk  Identity Verified
United States
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But don't try too hard Feb 20, 2010

...'cause talking to yourself may be the first symptom of... yes, of schizophrenia!

So it may be rather a dangerous sign.



[Edited at 2010-02-20 21:40 GMT]


 
John Cutler
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Spain
Local time: 22:51
Spanish to English
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As long as I don't answer myself... Feb 20, 2010

Alexander Kupriyanchuk wrote:


...'cause talking to yourself may be the first symptom schizophrenia.

So it may be rather a dangerous sign.



I've always heard that it's not a problem if you talk out loud to yourself; it's only a problem if you begin answering yourself!

I do sometimes talk to myself while translating but, on the other hand, I also comment out loud (even when alone) about what's happening on TV.

I should probably get a dog or cat. I've seen pet owners walking down the street carrying on completely one-sided conversations and no one looks twice.


 
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