Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
extramuros
English translation:
in outlying areas
Added to glossary by
Cath St Clair (X)
Nov 14, 2008 17:01
15 yrs ago
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Spanish term
extramuros
Spanish to English
Social Sciences
International Org/Dev/Coop
Context:
"Este programa tiene una limitada cobertura, por lo que uno de los retos es ampliar la misma en sus diferentes modalidades, en particular extramuros, que atiende las poblaciones más excluidas."
My current translation:
This programme [a Ministry of Health programme that provides care and education for children aged between two and seven, to help their mothers enter the workforce] has limited coverage, meaning that one of the challenges is to upscale its various manifestations, in particular those focused on rural populations??, which attend to the most excluded populations.
Anyone know what "extramuros" is referrring to here? Rural populations, or possibly the slums on the outskirts of the cities? The document is mostly focussed on rural populations, but it does also include marginal urban communities as the target population in some interventions.
"Este programa tiene una limitada cobertura, por lo que uno de los retos es ampliar la misma en sus diferentes modalidades, en particular extramuros, que atiende las poblaciones más excluidas."
My current translation:
This programme [a Ministry of Health programme that provides care and education for children aged between two and seven, to help their mothers enter the workforce] has limited coverage, meaning that one of the challenges is to upscale its various manifestations, in particular those focused on rural populations??, which attend to the most excluded populations.
Anyone know what "extramuros" is referrring to here? Rural populations, or possibly the slums on the outskirts of the cities? The document is mostly focussed on rural populations, but it does also include marginal urban communities as the target population in some interventions.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | in outlying areas |
Bubo Coroman (X)
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| 4 +3 | extramural |
Yaotl Altan
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| 4 +1 | beyond the boundaries |
MariCarmen Pizarro
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| 3 | on the outskirts of the city |
Fiona Kirton
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Proposed translations
16 hrs
Selected
in outlying areas
References:
The outlying areas, or "extramuros," encompassed peripheral neighborhoods that had once been communally held indigenous lands which, after the 1874 Law of Expropriation, were gradually incorporated into the limits of the city (Barragán 1990: 224-228).
http://www.utexas.edu/utpress/excerpts/exstegen.html
extramuros
— s. m. pl.
2 Zona que está fuera del recinto de una población: capitaneaba a los chiquillos de los caseríos de extramuros cuando entraban en la ciudad.
http://es.thefreedictionary.com/extramuros
As far as I know, the term originated in the period when towns had defensive walls (murallas) which marked their boundaries.
The outlying areas, or "extramuros," encompassed peripheral neighborhoods that had once been communally held indigenous lands which, after the 1874 Law of Expropriation, were gradually incorporated into the limits of the city (Barragán 1990: 224-228).
http://www.utexas.edu/utpress/excerpts/exstegen.html
extramuros
— s. m. pl.
2 Zona que está fuera del recinto de una población: capitaneaba a los chiquillos de los caseríos de extramuros cuando entraban en la ciudad.
http://es.thefreedictionary.com/extramuros
As far as I know, the term originated in the period when towns had defensive walls (murallas) which marked their boundaries.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks for the helpful references."
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6 mins
Yaotl Altan
Mexico
Mexico
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Mexico
Mexican translator proofreader +20 years
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, Italian
Works in: English to Spanish, Italian to Spanish, French to Spanish, and 5 more.
extramural
This is, outside the bondaries of a university, building, city, etc.
Note from asker:
| I know what the term means - I need to know what it means in this context!! With all due respect, extramural means nothing in this sentence. |
| But can we be sure this is what they mean in this context? Rather than outside of cities in general (i.e. rural areas)? |
| Sorry, that last note was supposed to appear on another entry. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Marjory Hord
1 hr
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| agree |
Gilberto Diaz Castro
1 hr
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| agree |
Muriel Vasconcellos
: To fit the sentence, you could say "offering it on an extramural basis," or something along those lines. Alone, the word is a little awkward in this context.
2 hrs
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14 mins
Fiona Kirton
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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Works in field
United Kingdom
Physics graduate and former IT pro
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, English
Related KudoZ points
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4
on the outskirts of the city
...in particular, those aspects focused on the outskirts of the city, which will help the most excluded populations
HTH
HTH
Note from asker:
| But can we be sure this is what they mean in this context? Rather than outside of cities in general (i.e. rural areas)? |
+1
15 mins
MariCarmen Pizarro
Native in Spanish
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Translation rates include editing!!!
Native in: Spanish
Works in: Spanish to English, Italian to English, German to English, and 14 more.
beyond the boundaries
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Note added at 2 días22 horas (2008-11-17 15:38:06 GMT)
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beyond the boundaries of the city in order to attend the most excluded populations
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Note added at 2 días22 horas (2008-11-17 15:38:06 GMT)
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beyond the boundaries of the city in order to attend the most excluded populations
Note from asker:
| beyond the boundaries of what?? |
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