Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
paupière de hublot
English translation:
port brow
Added to glossary by
Miranda Joubioux (X)
May 8, 2008 09:38
16 yrs ago
French term
Miranda Joubioux (X)
paupière de hublot
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Ships, Sailing, Maritime
Je saisis la main courante astucieusement rentrée derrière les paupières de hublots et note au passage la fluidité de la circulation sur le pont.
I don't know what these are called in English.
I don't know what these are called in English.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | (port) sill |
Graham macLachlan
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| 4 +1 | porthole shutter |
Euqinimod (X)
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| 4 | porthole lid, shield, or cap |
Drmanu49
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Proposed translations
20 hrs
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(port) sill
you can see a picture of it here:
"... la ligne est magnifique, racée avec un rouf étiré, discret et hublots surmontés de « paupières » d’un bel effet."
http://www.ycpl.fr/photos2007/albumF50/index.html
Here's what the OED says about 'sill':
b. A horizontal beam forming the top or bottom of a ship's port;
There are also a few 'eyelids' floating abour on the Net:
Freeman Eckley, Inc. Freeman Eckley - Ohio, Michigan & Florida E ...Its purity of line, now-famous attributes (“eye-lid” cabin brow and flush hatches), ...... BENETEAU FIRST 50 NAMED A BEST BOAT FOR 2007 BY SAIL MAGAZINE ...
www.freeman-eckley.com/cgi-bin/p/ewdp-newsletter.cgi?d=free...
News - New and Used Yachts for Sale, UK Yacht and Motor Boat ...Second BENETEAU FIRST 50 arrives at Ipswich after the Southampton Boat Show. ... Its purity of line, now-famous attributes (“eye-lid” blinds, ...
www.foxsyachts.co.uk/news.htm
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Note added at 22 hrs (2008-05-09 07:54:35 GMT)
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in a general 'housey' sense a 'sill' is indeed at the bottom of the window, however a 'sill' in boat building terms is also the lintel as per OED
You may like to call it a 'lintel', 'protruding lintel" or 'proud lintel' but I'm not sure that 'lintel' is a pucker boatbuilding term:
Lintel
A horizontal support of timber, stone, metal, or concrete across the top of a door, window, or other opening.
OED
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Note added at 22 hrs (2008-05-09 07:57:53 GMT)
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In the strictest sense, the kind of yachts we're talking about don't have lintels or sills because they are moulded rather than assembled
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Note added at 22 hrs (2008-05-09 08:08:36 GMT)
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it's a Beneteau-specific term isn't it? an innovation requiring a new word perhaps?
...and then again how about a 'portlight fillet'
fillet
A raised rim or ridge on any surface. E18.
"... la ligne est magnifique, racée avec un rouf étiré, discret et hublots surmontés de « paupières » d’un bel effet."
http://www.ycpl.fr/photos2007/albumF50/index.html
Here's what the OED says about 'sill':
b. A horizontal beam forming the top or bottom of a ship's port;
There are also a few 'eyelids' floating abour on the Net:
Freeman Eckley, Inc. Freeman Eckley - Ohio, Michigan & Florida E ...Its purity of line, now-famous attributes (“eye-lid” cabin brow and flush hatches), ...... BENETEAU FIRST 50 NAMED A BEST BOAT FOR 2007 BY SAIL MAGAZINE ...
www.freeman-eckley.com/cgi-bin/p/ewdp-newsletter.cgi?d=free...
News - New and Used Yachts for Sale, UK Yacht and Motor Boat ...Second BENETEAU FIRST 50 arrives at Ipswich after the Southampton Boat Show. ... Its purity of line, now-famous attributes (“eye-lid” blinds, ...
www.foxsyachts.co.uk/news.htm
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Note added at 22 hrs (2008-05-09 07:54:35 GMT)
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in a general 'housey' sense a 'sill' is indeed at the bottom of the window, however a 'sill' in boat building terms is also the lintel as per OED
You may like to call it a 'lintel', 'protruding lintel" or 'proud lintel' but I'm not sure that 'lintel' is a pucker boatbuilding term:
Lintel
A horizontal support of timber, stone, metal, or concrete across the top of a door, window, or other opening.
OED
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Note added at 22 hrs (2008-05-09 07:57:53 GMT)
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In the strictest sense, the kind of yachts we're talking about don't have lintels or sills because they are moulded rather than assembled
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Note added at 22 hrs (2008-05-09 08:08:36 GMT)
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it's a Beneteau-specific term isn't it? an innovation requiring a new word perhaps?
...and then again how about a 'portlight fillet'
fillet
A raised rim or ridge on any surface. E18.
Note from asker:
| As a general rule the port sill is located under the port. I'm wary about the Bénéteau "eye-lids" - smacks of translation! - particularly when they refer to blinds. |
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I've decided to opt for port brow which IMO is the closest to what it really is. I'm giving you the points because without your references I wouldn't have found it.
http://www.liberty-ship.com/html/glossary/glosbody.htm"
3 mins
porthole lid, shield, or cap
A porthole lid recovered from. the wreck measured approximately 0.67 m square, which also corresponds to porthole lid. dimensions from the upper deck of the ...
www.ipa.min-cultura.pt/pubs/TA/folder/18/302.pdf -
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Note added at 5 mins (2008-05-08 09:43:33 GMT)
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All Vetus Portholes install by clamping to hull surfac. ... Beckson Rain Shield for 8X18 Portlight, RS-18 for reducing rain into the open porlight as well ...
www.go2marine.com/category.do?no=11691 - 35k
www.ipa.min-cultura.pt/pubs/TA/folder/18/302.pdf -
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Note added at 5 mins (2008-05-08 09:43:33 GMT)
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All Vetus Portholes install by clamping to hull surfac. ... Beckson Rain Shield for 8X18 Portlight, RS-18 for reducing rain into the open porlight as well ...
www.go2marine.com/category.do?no=11691 - 35k
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Tony M
: Not 'lid', i think you'll find that refers to the 'blanking plate' that can be used to cover the entire porthole / No convincing Ghits for 'cap' either, I'm afraid
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porthole shutter
See at the following addresses.
Note from asker:
| It's not a shutter, I've been trying to get pictures of it, and it looks more like one long lip in the mould that covers all the portholes |
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