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Ralf Lemster
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Shhh.... Mar 12, 2009



Finally, there are some bugs:

  • The month of becoming a member does not seem to be taken into account properly. I could see members who joined ProZ.com in May and December 2005, and for whom "4 years" is displayed when the mouse is moved over the star.
  • Corporate members do not get the star, even if they are long-standing members (e.g., no start next to "Member (2002)").



I had hoped that this was a feature...


Best, Ralf


 
Aniello Scognamiglio (X)
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Corporate vs. translator Mar 12, 2009

Ralf Lemster wrote:

  • Corporate members do not get the star, even if they are long-standing members.
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    Best, Ralf


  • Perhaps corporate members are taken seriously?


     
    Prawi
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    No, thanks Mar 12, 2009

    No need for it

    Paola


     
    Charlie Bavington
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    Poll? Mar 12, 2009

    Seems to me that a site poll on the subject would be a good idea.....

     
    Roberto Rey
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    Proz or Conz Mar 12, 2009

    Alicia Casal wrote:


    I DO LIKE IT!

    ALICIA


    I don't, sincerely I think its ridiculous..what's next a smiley face? a two thumbs up, a red pulsating heart, a flower....lets leave these things to chats and little girls...


     
    Erik Hansson
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    No sheriff star for Platinum turned into Corporate members? Mar 12, 2009

    Attila Piróth wrote:

    Finally, there are some bugs:

    • The month of becoming a member does not seem to be taken into account properly. I could see members who joined ProZ.com in May and December 2005, and for whom "4 years" is displayed when the mouse is moved over the star.
    • Corporate members do not get the star, even if they are long-standing members (e.g., no start next to "Member (2002)").


    Kind regards,
    Attila


    We are one of those members who were once a Platinum member (since 2002) but turned into Corporate member some years ago. So there won't be a sheriff star for us!

    I fail to understand the advantage with all this stars, ribbons, badges etc. Does this really attract new clients? Do potential clients, not familiar with the site, understand this jungle of symbols?


     
    Ivette Camargo López
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    What about people who have been merely registered for a long time? Mar 12, 2009

    Hi,

    I agree with all the others that think that this new feature is not really necessary and it may be confusing, even "classist".

    I can understand that Proz.com has chosen a known/recent translation standard (the EN 15038) as a *reference* to recognize a translator's fulfillment of some minimum professional requirements (the PRO icon), but a star recognizing long-standing paying membership definitely sounds like a mere marketing scheme.

    Furthermore, obviou
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    Hi,

    I agree with all the others that think that this new feature is not really necessary and it may be confusing, even "classist".

    I can understand that Proz.com has chosen a known/recent translation standard (the EN 15038) as a *reference* to recognize a translator's fulfillment of some minimum professional requirements (the PRO icon), but a star recognizing long-standing paying membership definitely sounds like a mere marketing scheme.

    Furthermore, obviously some people contribute/have contributed to the success/support of this website without necessarily having always (or ever) paid as members, so it also sounds rather discriminatory to recognize long-standing support of the website only in the case of those who pay.

    Saluditos,

    Ivette
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    Michele Johnson
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    Distraction measure? Mar 12, 2009

    This seems like a classic distraction measure to me - look at the beautiful shiny things! - to draw attention away from stuff like the Google Analytics fiasco, obtrusive/offensive advertising, heavy-handed forum locking, massive moderator resignation, to say nothing of the multitude of unattended bu... See more
    This seems like a classic distraction measure to me - look at the beautiful shiny things! - to draw attention away from stuff like the Google Analytics fiasco, obtrusive/offensive advertising, heavy-handed forum locking, massive moderator resignation, to say nothing of the multitude of unattended bugs/suggestions that need processing, e.g. http://www.proz.com/forum/prozcom_suggestions-13.html

    This just seems so out of touch with users - I mean, stars? What? You actually wasted programmers' time with this? Honestly, the combination of these things makes me reconsider my upcoming membership renewal. But I had better hurry and send this off before the thread is locked.
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    QUOI
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    participants vs financial members Mar 12, 2009

    when these non-paying users have decided to acutally fork out some cold hard cash, they will be given a star... after a year or so.

    R.

    ICL wrote:

    Hi,

    I agree with all the others that think that this new feature is not really necessary and it may be confusing, even "classist".

    I can understand that Proz.com has chosen a known/recent translation standard (the EN 15038) as a *reference* to recognize a translator's fulfillment of some minimum professional requirements (the PRO icon), but a star recognizing long-standing paying membership definitely sounds like a mere marketing scheme.

    Furthermore, obviously some people contribute/have contributed to the success/support of this website without necessarily having always (or ever) paid as members, so it also sounds rather discriminatory to recognize long-standing support of the website only in the case of those who pay.

    Saluditos,

    Ivette



    [Edited at 2009-03-12 13:30 GMT]


     
    Paola Dentifrigi
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    All things considered, this is my answer as well Mar 12, 2009

    Michele Johnson wrote:

    This seems like a classic distraction measure to me - look at the beautiful shiny things! - to draw attention away from stuff like the Google Analytics fiasco, obtrusive/offensive advertising, heavy-handed forum locking, massive moderator resignation, to say nothing of the multitude of unattended bugs/suggestions that need processing, e.g. http://www.proz.com/forum/prozcom_suggestions-13.html

    This just seems so out of touch with users - I mean, stars? What? You actually wasted programmers' time with this? Honestly, the combination of these things makes me reconsider my upcoming membership renewal. But I had better hurry and send this off before the thread is locked.



    Thank you, Michele


     
    Monika Coulson
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    "Member since ...." - Meaningful; Star - No Mar 12, 2009

    The way I see it is that you are dividing people in two big pools/categories: Less than 3 yrs with the site and more than 3 yrs with the site. And then??? I personally do not see the reason behind it. What would be the difference between the ones who have been supporting the site for 3 years and a day and those who have been here for 8-9-10 yrs and so on? In three years, all of us who already are here today, will have a star. And then???

    I would prefer to keep my "Member since ....
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    The way I see it is that you are dividing people in two big pools/categories: Less than 3 yrs with the site and more than 3 yrs with the site. And then??? I personally do not see the reason behind it. What would be the difference between the ones who have been supporting the site for 3 years and a day and those who have been here for 8-9-10 yrs and so on? In three years, all of us who already are here today, will have a star. And then???

    I would prefer to keep my "Member since ...." display instead.


    Monika
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    Marie-Hélène Hayles
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    GuruZ Mar 12, 2009

    Monika Coulson wrote:

    What would be the difference between the ones who have been supporting the site for 3 years and a day and those who have been here for 8-9-10 yrs and so on?



    I propose a Guru icon for all the blokes clocking up 8 years or more:



    and a WiZeWoman icon for us women:




     
    Anne Brackenborough (X)
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    cash Mar 12, 2009

    Ray_S wrote:
    when these non-paying users have decided to acutally fork out some cold hard cash, they will be given a star... after a year or so.


    You're probably right: this scheme could be an incentive to make non-members join up right this moment. Every minute you fail to pay up is another minute your profile looks dull and unimpressive.

    How about a black mark for us translators who've been here more than 3 years without paying a penny? Or should that be a silver star for those of us who've loyally contributed our ideas to an institution in which we have no financial interest at all?


     
    Eric Hahn (X)
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    It's me ! Mar 12, 2009

    [quote]Marie-Hélène Hayles wrote:

    I propose a Guru icon for all the blokes clocking up 8 years or more:


    Where did you find my photo ?


     
    Vito Smolej
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    It just takes time to get a star Mar 12, 2009




    Like many others, I don't see a utility of this new feature, as it does not carry extra information. Moreover, it can be misleading, giving an impression of higher quality. It might also influence the decision of inexperienced outsourcers when looking for translators, which is probably unfortunate, as I don't know of any proven correlation between quality and long-standing membership (and even if there is one, I have serious doubts about whether such a correlation should be used in such a way).



    [Edited at 2009-03-12 14:17 GMT]


     
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