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expressisverbis
expressisverbis
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Context is unclear or insufficient, Jun 4, 2020

Thomas Pfann wrote:

Yes, context is always required. If no context is provided the question cannot be answered. Simple as that. Anyone answering a context-less question without first asking for the missing context isn't helping the asker and, in my opinion, doesn't deserve the points.



or things become harder when the asker doesn't know what is translating, or doesn't have the appropriate experience in a certain field.

[Edited at 2020-06-04 17:07 GMT]


 
Paul Dixon
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Brazilië
Local time: 07:51
Portugees naar Engels
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Yes, always context please Jun 4, 2020

That reminds me of:

- How many translators does it take to change a lamp bulb?
- It depends on the context


Christopher Schröder
expressisverbis
Sebastian Witte
MollyRose
 
Marina Steinbach
Marina Steinbach
Verenigde Staten
Local time: 06:51
Lid 2011
Engels naar Duits
Thanks for letting me know. Jun 4, 2020

Christine Andersen wrote:

When deciding how many points to award, please consider this scale as a guideline:

4: Answer was acceptable, explanation was good, reference was provided (or not needed)
3: Answer was acceptable, explanation was good, but reference was lacking
2: Answer was acceptable
1: Answer was somewhat helpful


Thanks for letting me know. At least I know now why people have been giving me 1, 2, 3 and 4 points as a thank-you for my help...


Sabrina Bruna
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Jessica Noyes
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Valuable hints and suggestions Jun 4, 2020

Sometimes two answerers give valuable hints and suggestions---answers that point you in the right direction toward your ultimate wording. Since you don't use them verbatim, it is not unusual for two people to help you equally, with neither providing your final answer. In such a case, it would make sense to divide the points.

Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
expressisverbis
 
Vanda Nissen
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Australië
Local time: 20:51
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Engels naar Russisch
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Number of points Jun 4, 2020

I mostly use ''4'', however on a couple of occasions I used ''2'' or ''3'' when the answers were not 100% accurate but they were a good starting point for me and I was able to use them to find the right answer. I always mentioned it in the notes and thanked my colleagues for helping me out. I do not think people were offended. Likewise, I also received a couple of ''2''s, can't remember why, but most likely for the same reasons. However, if I saw someone misusing the system, I would have stopped... See more
I mostly use ''4'', however on a couple of occasions I used ''2'' or ''3'' when the answers were not 100% accurate but they were a good starting point for me and I was able to use them to find the right answer. I always mentioned it in the notes and thanked my colleagues for helping me out. I do not think people were offended. Likewise, I also received a couple of ''2''s, can't remember why, but most likely for the same reasons. However, if I saw someone misusing the system, I would have stopped helping them.Collapse


Kevin Fulton
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
expressisverbis
 
expressisverbis
expressisverbis
Portugal
Local time: 11:51
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Vanda, Jun 5, 2020

Vanda Nissen wrote:

I mostly use ''4'', however on a couple of occasions I used ''2'' or ''3'' when the answers were not 100% accurate but they were a good starting point for me and I was able to use them to find the right answer. I always mentioned it in the notes and thanked my colleagues for helping me out. I do not think people were offended. Likewise, I also received a couple of ''2''s, can't remember why, but most likely for the same reasons. However, if I saw someone misusing the system, I would have stopped helping them.


When someone gets a "thank you" and a score of 1, or 2, there is no reason to be offended, if properly justified, I agree with you.
Bombarding the forum with questions during a day, with no thanks, awarding a few points, and closing some of those questions without saying a single word (without revealing the term found), in my view, this can be very rude, and greedy.


Vanda Nissen
Josephine Cassar
 
neilmac
neilmac
Spanje
Local time: 12:51
Spaans naar Engels
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Anything goes Jun 7, 2020

Thomas Pfann wrote:

... Anyone answering a context-less question without first asking for the missing context isn't helping the asker and, in my opinion, doesn't deserve the points.



Anyone? Well,that's your opinion/Weltanschauung. However, I have a different attitude, because sometimes I will throw out a suggestion regardless of whether there is context given or not, as I think anything is better than nothing. It's akin to the method "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks". And I'm quite sure I have helped askers by doing so on more than one occasion. This doesn't mean that my suggestion was accepted as "correct" or awarded points, simply that it went some way towards helping the person clear up their doubts and queries, if only by ruling out my proposal.


Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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May I add another «phenomenon»? Jun 8, 2020

It’s not new, but it has proliferated recently. I’m referring to people who give exactly the same answer as someone else. I know that every so often it’s a coincidence and it just means that one person was quicker than the other. Let’s be clear, this has happened to me several times before and in these cases I either delete my answer immediately or I let it stay if it brings something to the table. But I’m referring to answers given some time (even some days) after the first one. What�... See more
It’s not new, but it has proliferated recently. I’m referring to people who give exactly the same answer as someone else. I know that every so often it’s a coincidence and it just means that one person was quicker than the other. Let’s be clear, this has happened to me several times before and in these cases I either delete my answer immediately or I let it stay if it brings something to the table. But I’m referring to answers given some time (even some days) after the first one. What’s the point?

As an example:

https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-portuguese/construction-civil-engineering/6828071-turtle.html
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Zibow Retailleau
Christel Zipfel
 
Angie Garbarino
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Yes, also to me Jun 8, 2020

Sabrina Bruna wrote:

It has happened to me more than once in my language pairs: 2 points and even 1 point, three times from the same asker, several questions still open after many months... I can't understand this behaviour either, I think it is not fair...


I see we share at least 1 pair, and there is also 1 recurring asker with 100 questions closed without grading.


expressisverbis
 
expressisverbis
expressisverbis
Portugal
Local time: 11:51
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Engels naar Portugees
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Many "phenomena" Jun 8, 2020

Teresa Borges wrote:

It’s not new, but it has proliferated recently. I’m referring to people who give exactly the same answer as someone else. I know that every so often it’s a coincidence and it just means that one person was quicker than the other. Let’s be clear, this has happened to me several times before and in these cases I either delete my answer immediately or I let it stay if it brings something to the table. But I’m referring to answers given some time (even some days) after the first one. What’s the point?

As an example:

https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-portuguese/construction-civil-engineering/6828071-turtle.html


Many phenomena happen quite often. People think this one happens because they are new members, but let's face it: this is a lame excuse.


Angie Garbarino
 
expressisverbis
expressisverbis
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Points again, but in "confidence level" Jun 10, 2020

During these years I have been in this forum, I always rate my own confidence level with a "3" on a scale of up to 5.
in my opinion, 5 shows a bit of arrogance, 4 is more modest, and 3 represents even more modesty just because I am not "the owner of the truth".
I am thinking about changing this, since I see non-native members coming up with suggestions not common or appropriate in professional translators, and grading themselves a 4 or 5.
This is one of the many phenomena I sad
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During these years I have been in this forum, I always rate my own confidence level with a "3" on a scale of up to 5.
in my opinion, 5 shows a bit of arrogance, 4 is more modest, and 3 represents even more modesty just because I am not "the owner of the truth".
I am thinking about changing this, since I see non-native members coming up with suggestions not common or appropriate in professional translators, and grading themselves a 4 or 5.
This is one of the many phenomena I sadly keep seeing around the terminology forum.
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